This frame is perfect for advanced players looking for a traditional playing frame, that takes customization well. In stock form, this frame weighs a little over 11 ozs. I felt it needed a little lead at the 3 and 9 o'clock positions, and now it plays like the classic pro staff 95 from the 90's. The thin box frame gives you that classic frame feel and makes it more maneuverable 5 stars!.